Saturday, November 18, 2006

Investment Seminar

Today, I attended an investor’s seminar at nse, organized by sterling securities lTD.

Charges
1000/= payable at the entrance

Attendance
About 30 people. Evenl;y distributed between laldies and men. All people who have invested in the past and mostly laymen (in stocks trading terms)

Issues of Interest
Agents
Lots of stock agents acting for brokers have set up SHOP of late. Some cases of lost cash Eere reported at the seminaR. Aparently, the brokers are responsible for an agent's 'fuck ups'. a broker should refund cash stolen/misappropriated by his by their agent.

Nominee accounts
Its illegal for brokers to use nominee accounts for normal trading or application for IPOs. However, some brokers are using them big time.

Private transfer of shares
One can privately transfer shares without going though the nse sale procedures.

Investment banks vs brokers
Investment banks are allowed to trade in shares in their name, brokers are not. However, brokers still do trade.

Raising campaign cash from nse
There were fears that the upcoming privitisation (see safcom, kenya -re, mumias, kengen) could be used for politics and not govt deficit financing

Share splits
Look out for nay shares selling @ 200+. all these are candidates for splits in the next 12 months

Investment clubs
Most clubs are unabel to agree on how to split profits arising from contributions, where people contribute differently. A guy has come up with a software to value members' worth.

Eveready IPO
The company is not doing well. Generating negative cash flows, sales declining, compe from counterfeits etc. However, a massive oversubscription expected.

23 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

My rule of thumb on this is to look at the five things, P/E of the overall market and compare this to the general economic growth rates and the trends in interest rates, real estate and inflation. The last three tell you a lot about why much money is swirling around the economy without being invested. Inflation has stayed high in Kenya meaning there is too much money chasing too few spending opportunities; hence real estate prices are going up fast. Govt monetary policy is non-existent meaning that rates are flattish when they should be rising to mop up this money. Eventually anybody including those who would normally put their savings in banks start coming into the stock market thus creating an artificial bubble. But at some point, there will be a correction…possibly in the 2nd half of 2007.

2:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice one gath:
Apparently it seems that brokers can break rules with impunity. Wasn't there any representation from CMA to act on the allegations?
Also, it's already hard enough to try stop the govt from misusing taxes, so what about nse?
Finally, Eveready IPO oversubscription should translate to immediate capital gains. Good for short term investor like me. Somewhere on stockskenya.com, it's noted that the company is doing better than Scangroup as far as dividend payouts suggest...

12:23 PM  
Anonymous Ken said...

Gathinga thanks for the info,
What exactly is the benefit of a share split ?
In my opinion appart from attempting to correct the percieved price of a stock, there is no benefit as the capitalization remains the same. What are your thoughts ?

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Blogger dudej said...

By now people should realize that although the NSE is a problem, the real problem lies in the CMA, they lack the will power to regulate and catalyze growth in local Capital Markets.

Am interested in the the software for investment clubs. Any contacts?

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Blogger gathinga said...

Mainat@ agree that there is lots of cash lying around and ending up at the market. But the correction in mid 2007 is only going to be temporary followed buy another bull run immediately after elections, unless something goes very wrong at the ballot

mwasjd@ no fellows from nse or cma showed up. its unlike them to. eveready has been paying high dividens just coz the guys wanted to remove the cash...just look at their declining net asset value.

ken@true share splits havbe no tangible benefits besides increasing the liquidity of the stock in the market.

dudej@ investment clubs software.
danielmwangi@yahoo.com

5:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Mainat: I totally agree with you.Will do a post on my views next year in Jan.

@Gathinga: Good post.I knew u could transfer by private treaty or something.But since CDS came in brokers have been discouraging it.

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